FAQ About my Eleanor of Aquitaine Project

If you’re a regular reading of this blog, you will have seen my series about verifying my possible line back to Eleanor of Aquitaine. I have proven 28 out of 29 generations so far. Many people have contacted me or left comments saying they love the series and seeing all the different records. Thank you for doing that; it’s a great encouragement for me.

Some questions come up repeatedly, so I thought I’d write a blog post with answers to the Frequently Asked Questions about the project.

How do you know which line to follow?

I originally found the line back to Eleanor in a range of reliable and not so reliable sources. The generations before 1500 AD especially were not based on research in original records, but on published genealogies, online trees, correspondence with other genealogists, and discussions on mailing lists.

The goal of the project was to see how many of the generations could be proven according to the Genealogical Proof Standard, which includes doing reasonably exhaustive research, analyzing the best quality evidence available. That means I don’t rely on other people’s work but go back to the original records and draw my own conclusions.

But I already had a line to follow and prove, so I did not just randomly go from ancestor to ancestor in the hopes of ending up at Eleanor.

Grave of Eleanor of Aquitaine at Fontevrauld Abbey

Did you know you’d get this far?

When I started publishing this blog series, I had already completed the research for the first ten generations and knew that was solid, but honestly had no idea how much further I would be able to prove the line. But I figured that disproving the line would be interesting too, so did not wait with publication until I completed the research on all 29 generations.

When I published the first blog post, several links were considered unproven or hypothetical by prior researchers, that I have since managed to prove. I had my doubts about whether I would be able to prove the parents of Barbara Pijlijser (generation 17) and did not even know the name of the mother of Jan van Wijfliet (generation 20) when I started though I had a good theory about his grandfather, also named Jan van Wijfliet (generation 22). I hoped, but was not convinced, I could get past those hurdles. But I did! I’ve now proven 27 generations with just two more generations to go!

How is COVID-19 affecting your project?

For the first 20 generations, I published one blog post/generation per month. But the further back I got, the more time-consuming each generation became, for different reasons:

  • I  had done research on the first 15 generations myself, though it was not always complete. The generations before that were all based on research by others and required more verification since I had not seen any originals yet.
  • The earlier geneations required more unusual records that weren’t online as much as the more recent generations.
  • The records for the earlier generations were in Latin, Middle Dutch or Middle French, languages I’m less familiar with than the Dutch used in later records. The script too was worse, though ironically the records from the 1100s and 1200s are easier to read than those from the 1300s.
  • The earlier generations had records that were in Belgium, not the Netherlands. Belgium has fewer online records and is further away for me to do on-site research.
  • The earlier generations are noble lines and there is a LOT of documentation for them. What ends up in the blog is the tip of the iceberg of the records I go through for each link. I try to pick the best evidence, but for each charter that names the parent and child together, I probably go through at least ten that mention one but not the other.

I had been to Belgium to do on-site research twice when COVID-19 hit and archives and borders closed. Thankfully, I had photographed relevant records during those trips that I could then use from home, but I still had to pause the project because I did not have enough evidence to consider the links proven. Then I discovered the wonderful website Diplomata Belgica that has a search engine for charters in Belgium up to 1250, often including links to the images. Combined with the National Archives of Belgium‘s decision to make some of their scans available online instead of just in the reading rooms, that has allowed me to continue the research from home.

Since then I have been able to publish four more generations:

As discusssed in the blog post for her daughter, Marie of France (generation 28) is the daughter of King Louis of France. I do not yet know if I will be able to prove her mother was Eleanor of Aquitaine without going back to France, like I did for generation 27. I have found some useful French websites and have bought several publications about the Counts of Champagne, but don’t know if I will be able to find enough original records with good enough evidence to meet the Genealogical Proof Standard. We will have to wait and see!

Did you read the original sources?

Many people have asked me if I actually read the original sources I have as images in the blog. Yes, I do. For the earlier records, publications often exist, either in the form of abstracts, transcriptions, or translations. I use these first, to know which sources might contain relevant evidence. Once I identify a useful source, I then get the original and read that to verify the information in the publication to make sure it is correct and to see whether it has more information.

So far in the project, I have used sources in Dutch, French, Latin, English, German, Middle Dutch, Middle English, Middle French, Italian and Spanish. It’s a good thing I know my languages!

I also try to research the reliability of the records. For example, sometimes fake charters were created to document donations or land transactions that never happened. I don’t just study the charters, but also study literature about these charters, such as charter books, created by diplomatic [relating to charter] specialists who analyzed them for correctness. For chronicles I try to find literature discussing the reliability of the chronicler. This is not my expertise so I build on the experience of others for that part of the research.

Charter of 13 September 1473

What is special about the project?

Several people told me that it’s nothing special to descend from Eleanor of Aquitaine, since she has millions of living descendants and appears in many trees. They ask me what makes my project different from all the thousands of online trees that feature Eleanor as an ancestor.

The answer is simple: the level of proof. I have never seen anyone document their line back to Eleanor of Aquitaine according to modern standards. Especially for the early generations, I have not encountered any publication that went back to the original records. Some come close, like Medieval Lands, but even they rely on published sources rather than original records, and often use chronicles that are not contemporary. I think using original contemporary records where available sets my project apart from other people’s projects. If you know of another project that documents these early lines according to modern standards, I would love to hear about it!

Is it getting easier now you are researching higher nobility?

Many people think that researching the early generations, which are famous historical persons, should be easy because so much has already written about them. However, this is not really the case. While there are a lot of publications, they mostly either do not cite anything, or they cite other publications (see previous question).

Finding the original records requires traditional genealogical research skills. I use publications, transcriptions, and finding aids to identify possibly relevant records. I research the types of records that were created in the period, and see what survives.

For example, I found an obituarium that mentioned the death of Marie of France, countess of Champagne, by researching the religious institutions that existed in Troyes, where she lived, in the 12th century. I found that there was a nunnery that kept an obituarium where they commemorated all the benefactors. I then browsed the scanned obituarium to see if it mentioned anything about Marie of France, and found her entry. The record was in beautifully written Latin.

Though the research methods are similar, the early research requires some different skills than modern research. As part of my master’s in Family and Local History at the University of Dundee I took modules to develop my skills in heraldry, medieval Latin, palaeography, and diplomatics (the study of the structure of records, including charters). This has been useful for the research into the Counts of Flanders and Champagne.

Will there be a book?

At this point, I do not have any plans to publish the research in book-form. I chose to publish the line on my blog to get a wider audience and give everyone access to the information. Creating a book would be a lot of work, also because the images are optimized for the web, not print, so just getting those right would take a lot of time. I am not ruling anything out, but have no plans to turn it into a book.

I will be using the blog posts for different purposes though. I have already used one of the blog posts as part of my renewal portfolio for my certification with the Board for Certification of Genealogists. Every five years, I have to submit samples of my work to show my work still meets standards. I thought this series was a good example of what I’ve been doing. I will also be using the blog posts to update this line in the FamilySearch Family Tree, a collaborative online tree. Getting good documentation for the early generations will benefit many people. I know others can delete and change what I do, but I hope that providing good documentation will help to get the correct information out there.

What’s next?

Several people have asked me what I will do once the project ends (either proving or disproving the line back to Eleanor). I have not decided yet. I may try to trace her line back further in time or I may trace another line. I enjoy discussing all the evidence for one parent-child relationship per blog post so don’t think this will be the last series.

About Yvette Hoitink

Yvette Hoitink, CG®, QG™ is a professional genealogist in the Netherlands. She holds the Certified Genealogist credential from the Board for Certification of Genealogists and has a post-graduate diploma in Family and Local History from the University of Dundee. She has been doing genealogy for over 30 years and helps people from across the world find their ancestors in the Netherlands. Read about Yvette's professional genealogy services.


  1. Debra A. Hoffman says

    Yvette, I have loved your series and am always excited to see the next installment. Your work is inspirational. I may have a line to Edward III, as shown on Who Do You Think You Are with Courtney Cox. You have given me a great model to follow when I start working on that line. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise with us all!

  2. Donna Jones says

    Yvette, this series is so fascinating. Your skills are amazing and it is exciting to see each installment. I have been wondering if you were going to publish a book and it was interesting to read the challenges of doing so. Thank you for sharing this journey with us.

  3. Angelique Nota-Kruize says

    Yvette, I have a lot of admiration for your work, for me it was the most special and most important discovery in the field of genealogy.
    Proof that what my father and sister started is really correct.
    That all discussions about the wife and daughter of Jan van Wijfliet are now silenced because you have found the link and the evidence for it.
    You have become a big name in genealogy land, so big that your blog was even recommended to another visitor by a host of the MyHeritage vlog.
    She responded to my comment where I mentioned your name, she told me that she just recommended your blog to another guest.
    This prompted me to answer some questions about my interest in genealogy. They should also have approached you in response to the article they want to post on their site.
    Stay safe.

    Hartelijke groet,

  4. I’m so glad you plan to do more series. I’ve really enjoyed following your progress.

  5. Will you publish this work somewhere other than this blog when it is finished? It is a magnificent project. All of your own ancestors will become “gateway” ancestors for other people to prove descent from Eleanor.

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